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Jeff Leser 

Posted 30 January 2012 - 05:11 PM

I have responded to part of these posts in the new Sartoria Equipe thread.

I fully encourage local vendors in the US to offer products. Alessandro and Hunter both make good items. I believe that Alessandro stopped making uniforms because he had problems finding the correct material and the number of orders didn't support the cost of bulk ordering of the material. That is the main problem with small vendors; the cost of materials creates too large of a risk unless they have plenty of orders in hand.

Pista!

Jeff

pastasciutta 

Posted 30 January 2012 - 11:42 AM

Larusso has a point - we shouldn't dismiss Asian manufacturers
out of hand nor should we fail to consider the option of working
with a tailor to achieve an acceptable uniform piece.Both deserve
to be given a chance and I should also add that one thing people
like Larusso and others like him should be given credit for is
they're willing to offer up original items
(often acquired at great expense)to be copied and made available
at a reasonable price for the reenacting community at large to enjoy.

I also don't believe that a home-grown manufacturer/tailor
can be that easily squeezed out by competition from Asia - we're not
talking potential customers numbering in the thousands - if your product is made
well, accurately and not excessively priced,it will sell. You want an example? Your very
own made in the USA Alessandro.I rest my case.

larrusso 

Posted 30 January 2012 - 09:22 AM

I'm not entirely impressed with the price , service and the product of S.E. compared to what I have had made and to original items in my collection. I would prefer to use Asian manufacturers or local here in the UK. Why pay for something when you can buy an original next to the same price ? I'm putting a lot of noses out here who believe SE are the saviours of Italian reenacting. In a previous post a while back I complained about a shirt that I had made by SE ,I was shot down and told I had sent the wrong sizes to Remo. Nonsense ! I had to send it back twice , I paid the postage.Until the prices are comparable to what other reenacters pay I wont use SE. I'm not going to be popular here. Frankly SE is not the Holy Grail. Reenacting should be a hobby for all and affordable thats what I strive to do with my collection and get stuff copied and made affordably if possible for everyone. I aggree it is frustrating, there isnt any great numbers flocking to do ww2 italian reenacment so dealers wont make big profits. Shooting down the Asian market is wrong and verging on rascist reading some comments.
Remember original WW2 Italian uniforms were cheaply made and usually poor quality for the troops. I want more people to show an interest in our hobby, without being expensive or exclusive... End of rant

e.muti 

Posted 28 January 2012 - 06:17 PM

Jeff

This is true just hope italy switches back to the lire with the euro collapsing so it will be more affordable for me like it
was back before they switched currency!

Rob

Jeff Leser 

Posted 28 January 2012 - 05:20 PM

Sartoria Equipe is still supplying Italian soldiers in all theaters.

Better uniforms and complete, not bits and pieces.

Pista!

Jeff

e.muti 

Posted 27 January 2012 - 02:31 PM

We have been abandoned like the soldati in N.Africa!


E.MUTI

larrusso 

Posted 27 January 2012 - 09:35 AM

Chen is no more , given up the uniform side of things.
Other reenacters on the U.K. reenacting website have been discussing this.
Ah well never mind they come and go.
Mike

arturolorioli 

Posted 03 September 2011 - 05:18 PM

View Postbutcherboy1, on 01 September 2011 - 12:01 AM, said:

I dare say, that Arturo has found an excellent source for his requirement and at 20 Euro's, all i can say is , well done! that is truly an excellent deal!. But when it comes to group concerns, i think we all strive to look the same. Take for example our group, we all acquired the SE M40 tunic and pantalone.. and when you see a pic of us all together, with the same belt order and such.. it just looks great. I'm sure that independent tailor's are just as proficient at producing the right cut and cloth that is required.. but are they able to do it on a large scale?


Dear Steve,
thanks for the answer. And yes, a professional taylor will have no problem making 1 or 1 hundred pieces looking the same. If he is a pro, I mean, and makes proper cutting paper-shapes (or wooden ones, if the quantities justify the effort). Even relatively small Industrial taylors (the ones that makes uniforms for private police and guardianship firms, gold clubs etc) use laser-cutting for the clothing, so their cut is OK as well (and they can make even just 20 or 30 uniforms of your design). No, I do not think there could be a quantity/uniformity problem. I'm still a bit puzzled :(

Maybe uniformity of the cut and - mostly! - cloth colour with other reenacting groups?

e.muti 

Posted 01 September 2011 - 06:29 PM

Hello All

Spoke with someone at Hesse A. said they are in talks
with another source for Itai items. Could this be Sartoria
or another chi-com company? Hmmmmmmmm.....,,,


Ciao,Rob

butcherboy1 

Posted 01 September 2011 - 12:01 AM

Thats a very interesting point that you raise there Hunter. I suppose, it just boils down to convenience and conformity. That in being, that we all have the same access and sizing to a standardized uniform. Over the years, the community on this forum have been diligent in procuring a retailer who would produce the right kit, at the right price, and still be around for a long period of time.. as so often in this field, they tend to drop out or shut business. There is also the element of accuracy that comes into it. I dare say, that Arturo has found an excellent source for his requirement and at 20 Euro's, all i can say is , well done! that is truly an excellent deal!. But when it comes to group concerns, i think we all strive to look the same. Take for example our group, we all acquired the SE M40 tunic and pantalone.. and when you see a pic of us all together, with the same belt order and such.. it just looks great. I'm sure that independent tailor's are just as proficient at producing the right cut and cloth that is required.. but are they able to do it on a large scale?
Steve

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