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Posted 29 September 2005 - 01:39 AM
Hey Guys,
It is DONE, anyone dare to take a shot of what Italian insignia and awards are shown?
A NOI!!
It is DONE, anyone dare to take a shot of what Italian insignia and awards are shown?
A NOI!!
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Posted 29 September 2005 - 02:30 AM
Serge
Not fair until you provide better pics of the insignia. :wink:
The mostrine is Divizione Sforzesca (I think the color is green). There is a Fronte Russo badge on the pocket. I can't make out the badge above the pocket, nor the bdge on the sleeve above the gradi (but I assume it is the FERT Assault badge you mentioned before).
Jeff
Not fair until you provide better pics of the insignia. :wink:
The mostrine is Divizione Sforzesca (I think the color is green). There is a Fronte Russo badge on the pocket. I can't make out the badge above the pocket, nor the bdge on the sleeve above the gradi (but I assume it is the FERT Assault badge you mentioned before).
Jeff
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Posted 30 September 2005 - 01:42 PM
Very good Jeff,
The awards and insignia are as follows:
1-Sforzesca collar tabs (green w/ white stripe and stars)
2-Russian front award
3-Corporale stripes
4-FERT assault badge
5-German Iron Cross 2nd class
And the award on the right is reffered to and sold as the "Albanian Campaign" badge but I believe it is the Albanian version of the PNF party pin created in 39' after the annexation.
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The awards and insignia are as follows:
1-Sforzesca collar tabs (green w/ white stripe and stars)
2-Russian front award
3-Corporale stripes
4-FERT assault badge
5-German Iron Cross 2nd class
And the award on the right is reffered to and sold as the "Albanian Campaign" badge but I believe it is the Albanian version of the PNF party pin created in 39' after the annexation.
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Posted 13 October 2005 - 04:36 AM
Serge,
If your talking about the medal on the viewers right and center of pocket being a german iron cross second class you are wrong. It is the first class award.
Second class had a ribbon. When not not in service dress the medal was taken off and the ribbon placed in the second button hole from the top.
First class, no ribbon, placed right where you have it on any occasion.
As for the Russian front medal im not aware that it was issued to Italians and I doubt it was. Also you have it on the wrong side. Or foreign ribbons were put on the viewers left in the italian army-italians are your expertise im still learning. Before I had found out Italy had an armed forces in ww2 I was a german nut. So my judgement is quit good on the subject.
If you think im just pulling your leg go here.
http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/
If your talking about the medal on the viewers right and center of pocket being a german iron cross second class you are wrong. It is the first class award.
Second class had a ribbon. When not not in service dress the medal was taken off and the ribbon placed in the second button hole from the top.
First class, no ribbon, placed right where you have it on any occasion.
As for the Russian front medal im not aware that it was issued to Italians and I doubt it was. Also you have it on the wrong side. Or foreign ribbons were put on the viewers left in the italian army-italians are your expertise im still learning. Before I had found out Italy had an armed forces in ww2 I was a german nut. So my judgement is quit good on the subject.
If you think im just pulling your leg go here.
http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/
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Posted 13 October 2005 - 05:09 PM
I thought he was talking about the ribbon on the viewers left side above the breast pocket being the russian front ribbon.
The black medal by the iron cross-I have no idea. One, I cant see it two if it is an italian medal (which I expect) I have no idea. I think it is what you guys are refering to the FERT badge. I may be worng.
The black medal by the iron cross-I have no idea. One, I cant see it two if it is an italian medal (which I expect) I have no idea. I think it is what you guys are refering to the FERT badge. I may be worng.
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Posted 13 October 2005 - 05:25 PM
The "black" medal by the iron cross is actually the Italian medal for the Russian campain. It displays 2 crossed swords and the words "Russia" (or is it "Fronte Russo" ???).
Itīs not black, but a darker shade of metal.
Itīs not black, but a darker shade of metal.
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Posted 14 October 2005 - 06:29 PM
There were two 'awards' for service on the Russian Front. The first was a medal. This was a Iron Cross design, with white enamal filling the cross, on a black & white ribbon. The second was the Russian Front badge (this is what Serge has on his tunic). It was natural metal, with a circle wreath with two crossed Cossack swords.
From what I have read, neither of these were worn by the R.E. I beleive the awards were created in 1943. The R.E. never approved them for wear, although the German Army was authorized them. I believe the R.S.I. wore these items. However, before you take my words as truth, let me find my sources again.
Jeff
From what I have read, neither of these were worn by the R.E. I beleive the awards were created in 1943. The R.E. never approved them for wear, although the German Army was authorized them. I believe the R.S.I. wore these items. However, before you take my words as truth, let me find my sources again.
Jeff
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Posted 15 October 2005 - 07:15 PM
further to the Italian Fronte - Russo Badge, it was issued in March of 1943 to all troops who served on the eastern front between June 22 1941 and June 5 1943. The laurels represent heroism and the thorns represent suffering.
How about a 3rd award I came across. states it was issued to CSIR troops. The ribon green white & red. not much else. Comments?
Eddy
How about a 3rd award I came across. states it was issued to CSIR troops. The ribon green white & red. not much else. Comments?
Eddy
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Posted 16 October 2005 - 03:01 AM
Guys guys, here is a closeup of what the medal is above the left side upper tunic pocket. Enjoy and also the other is the CSIR as stated and is on the right side also....Newbies....
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Posted 16 October 2005 - 05:04 AM
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Posted 18 October 2005 - 01:33 AM
Well I finally have the basics done. The mostrine are home made. Unfortunately, in reducing the size of the picture to 50kb, you can't see the excellent work. So I proved a close-up. I decided to use the 1940 style rank. Unlike Serge, I don't have all the fancy awards. Still research them.
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Posted 19 October 2005 - 07:42 PM
sergemaster said:
Guys guys, here is a closeup of what the medal is above the left side upper tunic pocket. Enjoy and also the other is the CSIR as stated and is on the right side also....Newbies....
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Serge,
this looks to me like an Albanian campaign award. Am I right?
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Posted 23 October 2005 - 10:47 PM
This is a follow-up to my earlier post on the whether the two Fronte Russo awards were authorized for Italian soldiers. I am glad I checked my sources. I was confusing the Afrika Korps medal with the Russian front awards. It was the Africa Korps medal that wasn't authorized for Italian soldiers. The Fronte Russo awards were worn by the R.E. Sorry for the mistake.
Jeff
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