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Color of Italian helmets?

#1 User is offline   Tankredi 

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Posted 23 June 2004 - 10:37 AM

I have a question:
It looks like thereīs a difference in early war and later in the war color of the m33 helmet.
I have found out that for the early paint job, what gets closest is the German color RAL 6000 + a little bit of black.


Now for the late in war color. Does anybody have any code for a color that gets close?

I really donīt know if in other countries than Germany such a code system for colors exist, maybe you have something different in your countries?
Post your "local" color codes, maybe i can "translate" them.

Thanks!
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Posted 23 June 2004 - 06:33 PM

It is this color Iīm talking about

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Posted 23 June 2004 - 08:19 PM

not sure if this will help, however go to your local hobby shop and check out the 1/72 scale Italeri kits of figures for the RE, Folgore, Italian mountain troops etc. usually have an accurate FS number ascribed to the box.
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Posted 23 June 2004 - 09:20 PM

hm..that might be an idea...thanks!
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Posted 29 June 2004 - 10:21 PM

In italy there is a spray like italian-war-green.

For me it's better use a spray because the finished work is very similar to original,instead of using a brush...

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Posted 02 July 2004 - 07:28 PM

Urza, where can I get this spray?
And is there any kind of code on the bottle for the color?
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Posted 02 July 2004 - 08:31 PM

Why don't you just go to any good shop with car paints? If you have something painted in grigio-verde(I mean the proper shade), take it with you and they will prepare you this paint.
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Posted 02 July 2004 - 09:36 PM

it's not the original paint,but like similar to original.

if you go in a paint shop you can find that kind of green.

in italy is called "verde-oliva" :wink:


Is that an old helmet?
You can buy a nice m33 for less than 15 euro...
i have bought two m33 at 31 euro a month ago...

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Posted 02 July 2004 - 09:55 PM

urza1 said:

it's not the original paint,but like similar to original.

if you go in a paint shop you can find that kind of green.

in italy is called "verde-oliva" :wink:


Is that an old helmet?
You can buy a nice m33 for less than 15 euro...
i have bought two m33 at 31 euro a month ago...

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Gabriele, I think Tankredi is looking for a specific reference to the color he is seeking, ie., a FS (Federal Standard) number or something similar. Verde-oliva scuro is sometimes referred to as verde-oliva and was used on the continental paint schemes of aircraft. This shade of green has a specific FS code corresponding to FS.34052 or FS.34050 and is a very dark shade of green. It is possible that verde-oliva or verde-oliva scuro was used to camouflage the helmets of infantry and may be the color used on the top layer of paint on the helmet provided in the attached picture. The paint underneath the dark shade is not verde oliva scuro for sure, and judging from the picture, it is quite likely an olive-drab 34084 or something a little lighter.
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Posted 02 July 2004 - 10:00 PM

Ah,ok...so.... i don't know the name of the colors :roll:

maybe he search a specific colour,and not a similar one :? ...


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Posted 02 July 2004 - 10:03 PM

urza1 said:

maybe he search a specific colour


yes !

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Posted 02 July 2004 - 10:11 PM

Vince Tassone said:

yes, I think so, and if you're as anal as I am about doing things exactly :)

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What? :?

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Posted 03 July 2004 - 07:58 AM

anal?

What?
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Posted 03 July 2004 - 08:01 AM

urza1 said:


Is that an old helmet?
You can buy a nice m33 for less than 15 euro...
i have bought two m33 at 31 euro a month ago...



Urza, I have many m33 helmets, but none with this darker shade of green.
This picture was taken from Arditiīs website, the helmet is part of his collection.

I donīt think that verde oliva or verde oliva scuro is the right paint for the helmet. It should be something like a darker shade of the early green-gree color.
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Posted 03 July 2004 - 08:03 AM

ADOLPHO87 said:

Why don't you just go to any good shop with car paints? If you have something painted in grigio-verde(I mean the proper shade), take it with you and they will prepare you this paint.
Adolpho


Adolpho, I didi that with the lighter green-grey color of early war helmets.
Now the problem ist, I donīt have anything in that darker color ...
So I thought maybe someone on the forum knew a code for the color, which would make it easier to have that paint mixed in a car shop.
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Posted 03 July 2004 - 09:45 AM

No,sorry...
I have misunderstood :-( :-(

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Posted 03 July 2004 - 11:10 AM

:D
Here's that darker M33.
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Posted 03 July 2004 - 11:12 AM

I always wonder what are those two "stripes" on the shell of some of italian M33's. Are these any traces after factory's storage of still wet helmets?
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Posted 03 July 2004 - 11:37 AM

i have two m33,one with and one without the stripes :-)

maybe you're hypotesys is right :-)

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Posted 03 July 2004 - 02:52 PM

Tankredi said:

anal?

What?


anal = overly particular about details.

sorry for the confusion.
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